Am 13.06.2011 05:58, schrieb Kevin Kofler: > Reindl Harald wrote: >> and even on a new setup this should be a decision of the user >> at the very beginning what init-system he wants to us > > No, the choice of this kind of core under-the-hood system components should > be a decision of the distribution. thats freedom? > To the user, it should be only an implementation detail. To the software on the > distribution, it should matter that they can rely on the core system components > being what they are and not have a user replace something as central as the init system. and usually HE CAN NOT with the most new technologies introduced in Fedora the first two releases (PulseAudio, KDE 4.0...) > I think it makes no sense whatsoever to even OFFER upstart in F15+ as we are > doing. I don't see any valid reason why you'd use it over systemd. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=709681 because your fukcing holy cow is not well tested and stable enough and that it was planned for Fedora 14 and reverted at the last moment and now a version later /run was introduced and discussed not long ago shows that there are some peopole in the fedora community with the only interest getting their stuff to as many users as possible without a real interest if they can live with it > You complain about some bugs in systemd, those should be reported as bugs > and fixed. AND THAT IIS WHY YOZ SHOULD INSTALL SYSTEMD ONLY FOR NEW INSTALLATIONS TO GET A USERBASE FOR BUGREPORTS AND LAVE SINCE YEARS LUCKY USERS FUCK IN PEACE
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