Once upon a time, Adam Jackson <ajax@xxxxxxxxxx> said: > - We lose network transparency! Well, sure, the protocol doesn't have > that directly. You can still do vnc-like things trivially and with a VNC-like remoting is a significant loss for server environments compared to X-like remoting. With an X-based GUI management tool on a server, you fire up an SSH (or if you are old style you can even "xhost +foo", or manually copy magic cookies) and run just the app on the server, exporting the display of the app to your local system. All the "heavy-lifting" runs on your local system, not the server. When you close the app, there's nothing left running on the server. If you have to use a VNC-like remoting, you have to run a desktop environment on the server (at least some minimal thing). You either have to have it running all the time, or start it up on demand. Then you can log in to start your app. When you shut down the app, you have to remember to shut down the desktop environment as well. This is much more overhead on the server for an occasional use GUI app. None of my servers even have any desktop-environment type stuff install. In virtualized environments, making the servers run desktop stuff could greatly increase the overhead. -- Chris Adams <cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel