On 11/09/2010 03:57 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > On 11/9/10 7:23 AM, Jon Masters wrote: >> At which point, it's too late. Unless Server-y people point out that >> things like network apps actually matter, the default path may be to do >> what will look nice on a local desktop (for the record, I can see full >> screen tearing-free graphics both using upstream Intel and upstream ATI >> drivers - one on a laptop, one dual headed desktop - just fine already). >> >> Like Rich, I enjoy being able to start e.g. rawhide apps running on a >> virtual machine and have them render to my local X server, or start a >> second X and have an entire gnome-session running from a rawhide "box" >> sitting on my virt server. Also, although there are other ways to do it, >> my typical use of virt-manager these days is by forwarded X over ssh. > > Perhaps you should take your concerns to a mailing list the Wayland > developers actually read and participate on. Banging on about it here, > when nobody in Fedora has actually suggested we make use of Wayland, > seems like a big waste of everybody's time. I've seen the responses on the Wayland list, and it's always "Wayland isn't intended to do that." So, there's no point raising objections there. The risk is that Wayland gets developed and a bunch of key applications in Fedora get broken. The Wayland guys are not the people to talk to, since network transparency isn't on their radar, from what I can see. Andrew. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel