Hello Ewan, Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 12:41:26 PM, you wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 12:07:20PM -0500, Al Dunsmuir wrote: >> To some extent, I view my current contribution to Fedora as being >> unreasonable and insisting that it be able to perform basic server >> tasks reasonably for a small home system. If it can't do that, why >> would I believe that future RHEL releases won't follow the current >> problematic trends that currently plague Fedora? >> > It depends what you think the problems are; if you're concerned about a > high rate of updates, and updates being poorly tested, then those are > process issues that are not going to be replicated in RHEL. If you're > worried about the direction the actual software is going in, then I'd > have thought that the closer Fedora gets to a 'release early, release > often' approach, the better informed you are about what's likely to be > coming, as well as having more of a chance to change it before it's too > late. I want more updates. I want them to be more frequent, incremental and each reasonably well tested. Trying to do too many changes at a time not only leads to an increased likelihood of error, it makes it much harder to determine which update caused a particular issue (regression, or simple behaviour change). > Fedora shouldn't /just/ be a development playground for RHEL, and I > don't think it is, but amongst everything else it does, it is that as > well, and there doesn't seem much point in trying to make Fedora > suitable for low maintanence long running servers when we already have > an excellent Fedora style OS for that. I want a Fedora playground that is up-to-date (not quite rawhide, but supported if I find an issue). I am willing to accept a reasonable amount of risk, churn and extra effort as part of the cost of receiving those extra updates. The primary benefit to me is seeing new features and bug fixes in a useful timeframe. That being said, I want a playground where the cats are kept out of the sandbox - minimal unexpected/unwanted surprises, if you know what I mean. Al -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel