On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 00:53, Jesse Keating <jkeating@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 18:45 -0500, Steven M. Parrish wrote: >> As a maintainer I have seen several of my packages sit in updates testing for >> over 2 weeks with no comments and no karma. In fact they sat so long I got >> nag mail about not pushing them. Requiring a karma of +3 to push is just not >> going to work by itself. If anything it should be 'An update cannot be pushed >> to stable until either it reaches a Karma of +3 or it has been in updates >> testing for 14 days with no negative karma." > > There is a chicken/egg problem here. Karma isn't required, ergo it > doesn't happen. If karma is required, we might see an increase in karma > registered, as well as an uptick in tools development to help provide > karma (we're already seeing this in F13, one could conclude that part of > that is because karma is required for critpath packages). I think the 14 days with no negative karma is a good solution. At least for the packages I maintain. That is the way I use it manually at the moment, I push packages to stable once I get the nag mail. I also started to do mayor updates only to rawhide, enhancements to F-12 and security/mayor bug-fix updates to F-11. I maintain mainly php-qa packages. I never received any karma for those. So far I haven't received a single bug report. I might be the only person using those packages (I hope not - is there any way to find out?). I like the idea of easy karma scripts, but these will only help for packages which are used every day by a number of persons which are prepared to use update-testing. This could mean that I will only add new versions to rawhide and simply ignore any F-XX. This would save me a lot of time, but is probably not what users are looking for. Cheers, Christof -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
