On 03/04/2010 04:28 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 16:19 -0500, Peter Jones wrote: > >>> yup, this is very likely. One reason Mandriva's backports repository >>> was initiated was because, when MDV allowed only conservative >>> updates and had no official facility for adventurous updates, a >>> forest of third-party repos offering new versions of things sprung >>> up. Obviously this led to confusion for people doing user support >>> ('wait, exactly *whose* KDE 4.3 packages were you running again?') >>> and all> sorts of fun with incompatibilities between the third party >>> repos. >> >> Just playing devil's advocate here - what's the virtue of trying to >> avoid separate repos? It seems like there's a false dichotomy (trichotomy?) >> going on here, where our choices are: >> >> 1) this is in the main Fedora(tm) repo >> 2) we have a special repo for updates vs upgrades, each against stable >> 3) A free for all of third party repos hosted at various different >> places with huge conflicts and no coöperation whatsoever. Repos >> everywhere, dogs and cats living together, Cain has been marked >> and kicked out of the garden, total chaos. >> >> As a little gedankenexperiment, let's explore for a second a 4th option: >> Fedora-blessed/hosted/sponsored/whatever repos for things that we don't >> feel should be mandated on users, but which some users may want and some >> maintainers want to be able to provide. A little bit of all three - >> including a built-in need to be minimalist in construction, so as to >> avoid conflict nightmares, but at the same time freedom to say "here's >> a new major version of this, since we _know_ that's what you're looking >> for if you've got this repo enabled". >> >> Obviously this would require some tools work, but isn't it worth >> considering? > > What does option 4 provide over option 2? > > In fact, how is it even functionally different? 'Fedora' repositories > are effectively nothing more than 'blessed' repositories anyway, given > the considerable powers granted to maintainers. Option two is one more repo for all "updates". Which may be well and good, but might also be less interesting than a more general approach. In #4, what I'm suggesting is essentially the possibility of a SIG having overlay repos for whatever distro version(s) they want; they could be experimental, they could be for upgrades that don't conform to a more strict update policy, it could be for things even *I* haven't thought of yet ;) -- Peter Old MacDonald had an agricultural real-estate tax abatement. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel