On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 16:19 -0500, Peter Jones wrote: > > yup, this is very likely. One reason Mandriva's backports repository > > was initiated was because, when MDV allowed only conservative > > updates and had no official facility for adventurous updates, a > > forest of third-party repos offering new versions of things sprung > > up. Obviously this led to confusion for people doing user support > > ('wait, exactly *whose* KDE 4.3 packages were you running again?') > > and all> sorts of fun with incompatibilities between the third party > > repos. > > Just playing devil's advocate here - what's the virtue of trying to > avoid separate repos? It seems like there's a false dichotomy (trichotomy?) > going on here, where our choices are: > > 1) this is in the main Fedora(tm) repo > 2) we have a special repo for updates vs upgrades, each against stable > 3) A free for all of third party repos hosted at various different > places with huge conflicts and no coöperation whatsoever. Repos > everywhere, dogs and cats living together, Cain has been marked > and kicked out of the garden, total chaos. > > As a little gedankenexperiment, let's explore for a second a 4th option: > Fedora-blessed/hosted/sponsored/whatever repos for things that we don't > feel should be mandated on users, but which some users may want and some > maintainers want to be able to provide. A little bit of all three - > including a built-in need to be minimalist in construction, so as to > avoid conflict nightmares, but at the same time freedom to say "here's > a new major version of this, since we _know_ that's what you're looking > for if you've got this repo enabled". > > Obviously this would require some tools work, but isn't it worth > considering? What does option 4 provide over option 2? In fact, how is it even functionally different? 'Fedora' repositories are effectively nothing more than 'blessed' repositories anyway, given the considerable powers granted to maintainers. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel