On 01/03/10 00:06, Kevin Kofler wrote: > (Sorry, I reordered the replies a bit so I can reply to them without > referring back and forth.) It's also called "political licence" > > Frank Murphy wrote: >> On 02/27/2010 04:30 PM, Mail Lists wrote: >> an >>> 1: >>> I do want updates. Kernel updates, for example, are very important - >>> they carry many improvements - not just drivers but functionality as >>> well. The ones that are less obvious are the bugs that happen rarely but >>> that can be nasty (an occasional file system glitch for example). >>> >> >> As as enduser. >> I would agree with this. > > So you claim to agree with the parent poster… If you mean these points from "Mail Lists" then yes. > >>> These kind of non-user-demand driven fixes should not be ignored in any >>> noone-is-asking so dont release approach. >> >> If it's not broken, don't fix it. > > … yet you actually don't, and… > >>> The rare-but-nasty bug fixes will seldom have user demand - but >>> nonetheless once identified and fixed should be shared. >> >> Bug fixes would also be applied. > > … so which is it now? Do you now think bugfixes which don't fix a bug in our > Bugzilla should be pushed or not? The why\how is it a bug? Who decided? Handshake? If it's a bug and you (generic) know about it, please refrence it in bugzilla, even if only providing a link to upstream Bugzilla\Similar FWIW, I think they should indeed be > pushed, as the fact that the bug is not in our Bugzilla does not mean it > doesn't affect Fedora users (and so the package IS in fact broken and should > be fixed)! > Thats what Bugzilla is for. If people so not report bugs, they should be educated to do so. Whether user\dev\packager\ etc.. No one is a mind reader. > > And in addition: > >> On the everyday boxes there is FedoraN + F13\Rawhide Kernel(s). > > … so the stable Fedora kernels aren't upgraded often enough for you, but … As "1" above. (fixes things for me) I do report bugs. I also read Koji notes. But it's not a repo. > >> If it's not broken, don't fix it. >> >> Thats what the F13/Rawhide boxes are for. > > … you seem to advocate an even more conservative upgrade policy? Semantics. You want embellishment go Rawhide. otherwise stick with Security\Bugs as updates. > > > I must say I don't understand your position at all. > > Kevin Kofler > It's still the same. Security\Bugfixes(BZ'ed ones). So there is a refrence point. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
