Am Donnerstag, den 29.01.2009, 06:25 -0500 schrieb Behdad Esfahbod: > Christoph Wickert wrote: > > > > I think what Robert and me wanted to express is: It's not only that some > > (!) people from RH do not follow the guidelines but some also explicitly > > refuse to follow them even after they were told them what's wrong. I > > have no explanation for that kind of behavior but arrogance. > > I have a very unpleasant experience with a community maintainer over a package > we co-maintained and that I'm the upstream. Do I extrapolate that to all > non-RH people? No. Me nether, I repeatedly used the word "some". > Stop discriminating already. If an RH person doesn't > follow Fedora rules and guidelines, follow the standard Fedora procedures to > deal with them. The standard procedure would be to a) close the review NOTABUG or b) follow the AWOL procedure if reporter does not respond. Please show me a single case where we (community AND/OR Red Hat) successfully applied a) or b) to a RH employee. > Stop whining. Please. I'll shut up if you can show me such a case. > >> Most of what is seen as "Red Hat guys are bad at packaging" is simply baggage > >> held from the Core days. > > > > Agreed, but we've had merge reviews with proposals for enhancements and > > fixes that did not get applied by the owner. I have never ever seen this > > from a community member. If someone did, his review request would be > > closed "WONTFIX" pretty soon, but this isn't possible for merge reviews. > > Sure. That's a problem with the merge review procedure perhaps? Definitely > not something to blame the poor RH developer for. It's not only the merge reviews. I can show you bugs where a package was broken for a whole release and the bug was closed "WONTFIX" because the package was EOL then. Looking at my bugzilla frontpage I see a couple of bugs that are older than a year and still new or already closed. Assignees were not even responding when I set NEEDINFO. _All_ these bugs are assigned to Red Hat developers, _not_a_single_ of them to a community maintainer. How comes? Regards, Christoph -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
