Re: starting Fedora Server SIG

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Doug Ledford wrote:
On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 00:13 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
Jeremy Katz wrote:
Lots of things in a modern system are far removed from the stuff a unix
sysadmin has traditionally dealt with.  That doesn't make it necessarily
"bad".  And as Seth pointed out, this "all new is bad" or "all new is
good" dichotomy is a part of the problem

But if a system claiming to be new/better can't provide more or less exact emulation of the system it wants to replace, it probably really isn't better.

That statement is based on the incorrect assumption that the way things
used to be is/will be sane for the way things are going.  Sometimes you
just need to do things differently because what we grew up doing just
doesn't work any more.

Maybe - when tcp is replaced with some other protocol - or name and number assignment are no longer parceled out through a hierarchical process. Until then, servers need a way to assign the addresses manually in ways that are easy to relate to the physical wires that you plug into them, and it needs to be done by a person with authorization passed down the appropriate hierarchy. It's not something a daemon can guess at. If you want to make things easier for people who haven't already automated their processes, you could build a gui that deals with with configuring the separate programs that need to be tied together for related concepts. That is, you could have a gui form where you fill in a name, ip, and mac address and have the tool build the forward and reverse DNS zone entries and either the local interface configuration tied to that nic or the dhcp entry to assign it to a different machine.

For people who have already automated these processes, try not to screw it up too badly. If the way it is done now didn't work, we wouldn't have an internet.

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