Re: [INPUT REQUESTED] fedora-chromium-config and Fedora Workstation

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On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 7:30 PM Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 7:22 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 7:15 PM Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 6:52 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 5:48 PM Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > ...
> > > > > 1. Enable Chrome's auto-detection of DNS-over-HTTPS. It ships as
> > > > > disabled by default in Chrome currently, but it can be set to an
> > > > > 'auto' mode that will prefer DoH if it can determine that the DNS
> > > > > server supports it.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > This breaks corporate VPNs very hard, so probably not.
> > >
> > > Could you expand on this please? I'd just like to have some
> > > information to kick back at the requesting parties.
> > >
> >
> > Last time I tried it a few months back, Chrome switched to DoH
> > automatically under a variety of corporate VPN configurations I tested
> > from my workplace (split DNS, tunnel DNS, etc.). The experience when
> > that happens is confusing depending on how the VPN works. Mine just
> > results in unresolvable things some of the time, but I know other
> > workplaces have more painful experiences when that happens.
> >
>
> I just did a bit of research on it. I guess I can see where it might
> be problematic enabled by default, but Firefox (upstream, not sure
> about our build) has had it enabled by default for three years. I
> guess I don't love the idea of being inconsistent here.
>

It's disabled by default in Fedora's build of Firefox for the same
reason. Firefox prompts you on the first run about it because we
disable it by default.

> > >
> > > > > 2. Drop the user-agent extension. Ever since the advent of Chrome
> > > > > v100, various sites (particularly those that rely on Cloudflare[2]
> > > > > such as Gitlab.com) have been having difficulties when this is
> > > > > enabled. As its utility is limited (mostly just for metrics purposes),
> > > > > I think the easiest solution is to just remove it.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'd like to keep this, and this seems like something where Cloudflare
> > > > should be fixed to deal with it. :(
> > >
> > > I have no reason to believe that Cloudflare will do anything about
> > > this in the immediate future and in the meantime our users are
> > > suffering. If you have a better alternative, I'm all ears.
> > >
> >
> > Yeah, I dunno. Does Cloudflare know about it yet?
>
> I don't know. I've reported it to Gitlab and asked them to reach out
> to Cloudflare via their support channels, but I don't think that's
> happened yet. They haven't even responded to our bug report at all so
> far. Even if they do, Fedora represents such a small percentage of
> Cloudflare's potential user base that I cannot see them prioritizing a
> fix very highly.
>
> > > > > 3. There's a KDE Plasma integration extension too, maintained by the
> > > > > KDE upstream. Do we want to install that by default as well?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes, we should!
> > >
> > > For the record, I'm talking about:
> > > https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/plasma-integration/cimiefiiaegbelhefglklhhakcgmhkai
> > >  I forgot to include the link in the previous message.
> >
> > I figured that was the one you're talking about. There's also a
> > Firefox counterpart too that I think would be worth having too.
>
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/plasma-integration/ I presume?
>

Yep!

> It probably is worthwhile, but as I'm only maintainer of the
> fedora-chromium-config package, it's out of scope for this particular
> discussion.
>
> (Long-term, it might not be a bad idea to rename from
> fedora-chromium-config to fedora-browser-config and handle Firefox
> and/or other browsers in a common place. For now, though, I'm trying
> to limit it to what I am already familiar with.)

Makes sense. Feel free to reach out to the KDE SIG (Matrix[1],
tracker[2], list[3]) and see if anyone might be willing to help out
here. Your best bet would be either via Matrix or the tracker.

[1]: https://matrix.to/#/#kde:fedoraproject.org
[2]: https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issues
[3]: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/



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