Re: [INPUT REQUESTED] fedora-chromium-config and Fedora Workstation

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On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 7:22 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 7:15 PM Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 6:52 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 5:48 PM Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > ...
> > > > 1. Enable Chrome's auto-detection of DNS-over-HTTPS. It ships as
> > > > disabled by default in Chrome currently, but it can be set to an
> > > > 'auto' mode that will prefer DoH if it can determine that the DNS
> > > > server supports it.
> > > >
> > >
> > > This breaks corporate VPNs very hard, so probably not.
> >
> > Could you expand on this please? I'd just like to have some
> > information to kick back at the requesting parties.
> >
>
> Last time I tried it a few months back, Chrome switched to DoH
> automatically under a variety of corporate VPN configurations I tested
> from my workplace (split DNS, tunnel DNS, etc.). The experience when
> that happens is confusing depending on how the VPN works. Mine just
> results in unresolvable things some of the time, but I know other
> workplaces have more painful experiences when that happens.
>

I just did a bit of research on it. I guess I can see where it might
be problematic enabled by default, but Firefox (upstream, not sure
about our build) has had it enabled by default for three years. I
guess I don't love the idea of being inconsistent here.

> >
> > > > 2. Drop the user-agent extension. Ever since the advent of Chrome
> > > > v100, various sites (particularly those that rely on Cloudflare[2]
> > > > such as Gitlab.com) have been having difficulties when this is
> > > > enabled. As its utility is limited (mostly just for metrics purposes),
> > > > I think the easiest solution is to just remove it.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'd like to keep this, and this seems like something where Cloudflare
> > > should be fixed to deal with it. :(
> >
> > I have no reason to believe that Cloudflare will do anything about
> > this in the immediate future and in the meantime our users are
> > suffering. If you have a better alternative, I'm all ears.
> >
>
> Yeah, I dunno. Does Cloudflare know about it yet?

I don't know. I've reported it to Gitlab and asked them to reach out
to Cloudflare via their support channels, but I don't think that's
happened yet. They haven't even responded to our bug report at all so
far. Even if they do, Fedora represents such a small percentage of
Cloudflare's potential user base that I cannot see them prioritizing a
fix very highly.

> > > > 3. There's a KDE Plasma integration extension too, maintained by the
> > > > KDE upstream. Do we want to install that by default as well?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yes, we should!
> >
> > For the record, I'm talking about:
> > https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/plasma-integration/cimiefiiaegbelhefglklhhakcgmhkai
> >  I forgot to include the link in the previous message.
>
> I figured that was the one you're talking about. There's also a
> Firefox counterpart too that I think would be worth having too.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/plasma-integration/ I presume?

It probably is worthwhile, but as I'm only maintainer of the
fedora-chromium-config package, it's out of scope for this particular
discussion.

(Long-term, it might not be a bad idea to rename from
fedora-chromium-config to fedora-browser-config and handle Firefox
and/or other browsers in a common place. For now, though, I'm trying
to limit it to what I am already familiar with.)
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