On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 02:36:39PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 1:17 PM, Adam Williamson >> <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > On Tue, 2017-07-04 at 11:21 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 09:44:31PM -0500, mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx wrote: >> >> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReduceInitialSetupRedundancy >> >> >> >> I'm definitely in favor of the user account changes. The current setup >> >> is confusing for non-experienced users, especially because >> >> administrator isn't checked by default. This leads to situations where >> >> only a root account is created, and if you log in to Workstation in >> >> X or (especially) Wayland as root, many things don't work in >> >> non-obvious ways. Like, the GNOME user account panel. >> > >> > I don't think this is possible. If you only create a root password in >> > anaconda, this is noticed at first boot, and g-i-s runs in its pre-GDM >> > mode and forces you to create a user account before you reach GDM. >> >> There's an unfortunate conflict between wanting a disabled root user >> by default; and the ensuing difficulty troubleshooting boot problems >> because systemd demands only root can login when hitting emergency >> target. An account in wheel is not an option. > > We *could* change systemd behaviour here. For example, it could detect > that root account is locked and permit any user to log in. Or we could > extend this, and somehow only allow users in wheel to log in. Such changes > would require some new code and config, but certainly they can done, > current behaviour is not set in stone. Very cool. I for one would really prefer to see the root user disabled by default on all Fedora media. There doesn't seem to be much of an upside for Workstation; and then for Cloud/Atomic Host, and Server, it seems an unnecessary risk. Just login as a user in wheel and sudo -i if you need root. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx