Re: Initial setup redundancy

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On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
<zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 02:36:39PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 1:17 PM, Adam Williamson
>> <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2017-07-04 at 11:21 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> >> On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 09:44:31PM -0500, mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> >> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReduceInitialSetupRedundancy
>> >>
>> >> I'm definitely in favor of the user account changes. The current setup
>> >> is confusing for non-experienced users, especially because
>> >> administrator isn't checked by default. This leads to situations where
>> >> only a root account is created, and if you log in to Workstation in
>> >> X or (especially) Wayland as root, many things don't work in
>> >> non-obvious ways. Like, the GNOME user account panel.
>> >
>> > I don't think this is possible. If you only create a root password in
>> > anaconda, this is noticed at first boot, and g-i-s runs in its pre-GDM
>> > mode and forces you to create a user account before you reach GDM.
>>
>> There's an unfortunate conflict between wanting a disabled root user
>> by default; and the ensuing difficulty troubleshooting boot problems
>> because systemd demands only root can login when hitting emergency
>> target. An account in wheel is not an option.
>
> We *could* change systemd behaviour here. For example, it could detect
> that root account is locked and permit any user to log in. Or we could
> extend this, and somehow only allow users in wheel to log in. Such changes
> would require some new code and config, but certainly they can done,
> current behaviour is not set in stone.

Very cool. I for one would really prefer to see the root user disabled
by default on all Fedora media. There doesn't seem to be much of an
upside for Workstation; and then for Cloud/Atomic Host, and Server, it
seems an unnecessary risk. Just login as a user in wheel and sudo -i
if you need root.



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Chris Murphy
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