On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 7:14 PM Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 7:55 AM, Alexander Bisogiannis
<alexixor@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 27/07/16 14:33, Bastien Nocera wrote:
>>
>> That's nice they make cooking laptops in backpacks a low priority. At
>> least
>> it's still on IRC!
>
>
> Default behavior should be to suspend.
> The problem is removing the option from the user.
What other option is there? I'm thinking of handing the user razor
blades and telling them to go play on the freeway is not a good idea?
Because that's basically what either a poweroff or hibernation option
would look like. It's a b.s. option. Both of them require other work
before a DE could offer the option while also pretending to care about
user data. So if some other DE's are just ignorant of system
capability and let the user willfully engage in data loss, well...
that's their choice but I can certainly agree with a DE not giving
users the option in a GUI to shoot themselves in the foot.
The option to let the user decide what they need in order to get their work done.
Apple can get by with not offering, out of the box, some of these tools (though, as I've mentioned before, their default desktop is hugely more powerful than any linux de in terms of empowering the user) b/c their setups are very reliable (and they do user testing).
Additionally, if you think that suspend is MUCH more reliable (and, considering its use in this case, it better have a 6 9s success rate across arbitrary hardware---and I know it's nowhere close to meeting that criteria) than poweroff/hibernation, we have unbelievably divergent experiences in this area.
Best/Liam
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