On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 12:30:41PM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Paul W. Frields <stickster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 12:31:47PM -0500, Christian Schaller wrote: > > >> Yeah, I think we definitely need to make the text part of the Fedora release > >> process as I would assume that we want to adjust the descriptive text over time. > >> So maybe we can figure out a system where our design and marketing teams can > >> provide updated textual decscriptions for each release and in a format that > >> allows our translators to translate it before release. > > > > I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing, maybe I > > misunderstood? > > > > I was referring to the actual interface of the liveusb-creator. It > > features jargon such as "destructive (cp)"/"non-destructive (dd)" and > > "persistence." I don't think that's going to work well for users on > > their first experience procuring and installing Fedora. > > Martin's message sounds like persistence is going away because it's buggy. > > dd would be destructive, cp would be non-destructive. I understand these options, but thanks. If these choices remain, it would be better for them to be written in plain English. For example: "Overwrite the entire USB stick (destroys all data)" "Copy files to the USB stick (preserves data)" > dd is quite reliable since it keeps the ISO layout and bootloader > completey intact; whereas with cp the bootloaders will need to be > modified, which I still think is fraught with peril. I think the tool > should just use dd on the backend and inform the user very strongly > *ALL* data on the stick will be destroyed. I tend to agree -- a more reliable tool is better, even if that means sacrificing choice of options. > If the tool is using livecd-iso-to-disk on the backend, that seems to > be pretty reliable on x86_64 for both BIOS and UEFI firmware types. > But my understanding is livecd-tools is going away in favor of > livemedia-creator. So... +1, this would need to be checked and tested. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx