On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 12:31:47PM -0500, Christian Schaller wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Paul W. Frields" <stickster@xxxxxxxxx> > > To: desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:13:33 PM > > Subject: Re: Dropping i686 media for F24 > > > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 12:37:46AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Wed, 2016-01-20 at 15:39 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Adam Williamson > > > > <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2016-01-20 at 09:24 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 09:01:47AM -0500, Christian Schaller wrote: > > > > > > > My hope that for F24 our download is not an iso image, but rather > > > > > > > USB-creator. We could try to build some kind of GPU detection into > > > > > > > USB creator to have it choose a 64 bit image if the CPU supports > > > > > > > it, > > > > > > > and maybe that would help reduce our 32 bit numbers. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a change proposal filed for this? It's definitely the kind > > > > > > of > > > > > > thing which warrants it, for communication with the web and > > > > > > infrastructure teams, and for marketing. > > > > > > > > > > > > The USB creator, presumably, is a small download, which then itself > > > > > > does download of the ISO? I assume it's packaged as an installer for > > > > > > Windows and OS X -- what about for Linux? (Either for existing Fedora > > > > > > users or distro-hoppers?) > > > > > > > > > > I think he's talking about liveusb-creator, in which case yes, this is > > > > > more or less what it is. I would be leery about making luc the 'main' > > > > > download for Workstation given its current abilities and the resources > > > > > currently devoted to it, though. In my experience it's the least > > > > > reliable of the 'official' USB writing mechanisms, after dd-style > > > > > writes (most reliable) and livecd-iso-to-disk. I'm also not sure if we > > > > > have a packaging of luc for non-Fedora distros or OS X. > > > > > > > > Yeah but does luc do GPU detection, > > > > > > No, but Christian wrote "we could try to build" that, he didn't say we > > > already had it. > > > > > > > or download ISOs? I thought you > > > > had to point it to an ISO file. > > > > > > luc does do downloads - you *can* point it at a file, but it also has > > > both a built-in list of images it can download and write, and a remote > > > URL it queries for an updated list when you hit a 'refresh' button (it > > > should really pull the list on startup if you're connected to the > > > internet, but it doesn't, I tried to fix this once and failed, maybe I > > > should take another shot). > > > > The interface could likely use some work as well. It contains jargon > > a new user has no way to decipher. So it would be a good idea to > > involve the Design team for that. > > > > Yeah, I think we definitely need to make the text part of the Fedora release > process as I would assume that we want to adjust the descriptive text over time. > So maybe we can figure out a system where our design and marketing teams can > provide updated textual decscriptions for each release and in a format that > allows our translators to translate it before release. I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing, maybe I misunderstood? I was referring to the actual interface of the liveusb-creator. It features jargon such as "destructive (cp)"/"non-destructive (dd)" and "persistence." I don't think that's going to work well for users on their first experience procuring and installing Fedora. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
