On Mon, 2013-12-16 at 14:56 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Mon, 2013-12-16 at 09:23 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > We already gave up on CD size. For F20 we targeted 1GB (power-of-ten > > bytes), and it's pared _to the bone_ to make that. > > Don't forget that RPM changelogs have been deleted from specs in order > to save space. (I didn't even realize those were installed.) > > > especially that last section, those are things the desktop team clearly > > wants in the Proper Experience, as they're in the GNOME desktop comps > > group (most of them). They're being cut "purely for space reasons". > > I think the comment is halfway outdated: those GNOME apps were indeed > removed to save space, but I'm not sure that Matthias would put them > back even if there was enough room. None of those apps are really > necessary, and the plan is for some of them to be featured in GNOME > Software. So I don't think they're necessarily part of the Proper > Experience. Cool, but that's not a problem for making the experience consistent: just do it in comps instead, put them in an option group. Since the current framing of the proposal seems to be blocking on fedora-next, can I do some judo and make the proposal "Let's decide on a coherent GNOME package set and define that in comps instead of in the spin kickstart" instead? If there's something desktop really really wants that can't be done in comps - dropping stuff that's in @default , or something - then that will have to stay in the kickstart, but I think we could move stuff like the above into comps. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
