Hi, folks. So as a quick test of the DVD / live package set stuff, I just built an F21 live image from fedora-live-desktop.ks - rather than fedora-livecd-desktop.ks . Even with absolutely no tweaks or optimization, it comes out at the huge size of...1.2GB. So I think it's entirely feasible to bump the size target to 2GB, drop fedora-livecd-desktop.ks entirely, and just build from fedora-live-desktop.ks, giving the live image the same package set as DVD. We wouldn't wind up with a crazy huge image or anything, and we'd have lots of space inside the size target and not have to worry about that problem. There are certainly optimizations possible; if we did this, we could focus more on optimizing things in comps. One obvious one is the dep chain that pulls in perl. fedora-livecd-desktop.ks drops 'linux-atm' from the live image to prevent perl getting pulled in and save space. In comps, linux-atm comes in via the 'dial-up' group. So an obvious tweak there is to move 'dial-up' from being a default group for GNOME to being an optional group - this makes sense anyway, I think. People who still use dial-up or plug directly into a PPPoATM modem or something can select the group easily enough, everyone else doesn't get useless stuff. If any of the other package drops on the live image make sense to preserve for a larger live image and DVD install, we can look at how to implement them in comps (ideally). If people are interested in this I can come up with a concrete proposal pretty fast, I think. Even with the whole three-product thing rolling along, I think it makes sense to do this, since it wouldn't be particularly difficult and would simplify things a lot; I think it's possible that the 3 product stuff gets pushed out to F22, and if that happens, it'd be nice not to have fuss about the size limit and differences between DVD and live installs for F21 testing. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
