On Sun, 2013-12-15 at 18:15 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi, folks. So as a quick test of the DVD / live package set stuff, I > just built an F21 live image from fedora-live-desktop.ks - rather than > fedora-livecd-desktop.ks . > > Even with absolutely no tweaks or optimization, it comes out at the huge > size of...1.2GB. > > So I think it's entirely feasible to bump the size target to 2GB, drop > fedora-livecd-desktop.ks entirely, and just build from > fedora-live-desktop.ks, giving the live image the same package set as > DVD. We wouldn't wind up with a crazy huge image or anything, and we'd > have lots of space inside the size target and not have to worry about > that problem. > > There are certainly optimizations possible; if we did this, we could > focus more on optimizing things in comps. One obvious one is the dep > chain that pulls in perl. fedora-livecd-desktop.ks drops 'linux-atm' > from the live image to prevent perl getting pulled in and save space. In > comps, linux-atm comes in via the 'dial-up' group. So an obvious tweak > there is to move 'dial-up' from being a default group for GNOME to being > an optional group - this makes sense anyway, I think. People who still > use dial-up or plug directly into a PPPoATM modem or something can > select the group easily enough, everyone else doesn't get useless stuff. Keep in mind that a lot of what you see in those kickstart files is historic - I don't know if linux-atm still pulls in perl, or if something else does by now. > If any of the other package drops on the live image make sense to > preserve for a larger live image and DVD install, we can look at how to > implement them in comps (ideally). > > If people are interested in this I can come up with a concrete proposal > pretty fast, I think. Even with the whole three-product thing rolling > along, I think it makes sense to do this, since it wouldn't be > particularly difficult and would simplify things a lot; I think it's > possible that the 3 product stuff gets pushed out to F22, and if that > happens, it'd be nice not to have fuss about the size limit and > differences between DVD and live installs for F21 testing. This goes a bit against some of the long-term plans we have for the desktop spin, which is to make it smaller, not bigger. One of the reasons for working on gnome-software is that we need a user-friendly way to install applications to get out of having to pre-install them all. Maybe the Fedora workstation product will change these plans, but even then I don't think 'just make it bigger' is the right answer. -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
