Hi everyone, Sorry for being a bit late with chimming in again, was travelling then knocked out with acute food poisoning. Anyway, the second non-heading sentence of the document says 'We want to create a stable, integrated, polished and user friendly system that can appeal to a wide general audience, but with a special focus on providing a platform for development of server side and client applications.' This is in the Mission statement. So I still fail to see how we are not covering this aspect of things. Would it help people if we boldface that line? Christian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Nottingham" <notting@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop" <desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:45:16 PM Subject: Re: Workstation PRD approval Josh Boyer (jwboyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) said: > However, "general desktop _usage_" is certainly within scope. > Developers, sysadmins, students, grandma, all use a desktop. They > read email. They use a web browser. The basics of using your > computer are implicit as Christian says, but Matthew contends leaving > them out reads as if there will be no focus given to them. > > I would argue the target users are additive to general desktop usage. > So instead, perhaps the PRD could incorporate somewhere that we wish > to produce a Workstation that is high quality and usable for daily > computing but with focus improvements in the developer areas. This > could perhaps be done very simply as a line addition or slight > rewording in the mission statement. This seems like a worthwhile effort to clarify. If I look at the latest draft of the PRD, it does: Target Audience - Developer type A - Developer type B - Developer type C - Developer type D - Other users Plans, Policies and Work: - Robust upgrades (not developer specific at all) - Quality releases (not developer specific at all) - Better upgrade/rollback control (not developer specific at all) - 3rd party software (not developer specific at all) - Fedora ecosystem integration (not developer specific at all) - Standardize/unify Linux desktop space (only relevant for platform developers, which is not a developer type called out above) - Develop app guidelines (only relevant for a subset of developers that isn't a specifc one of A/B/C/D above) - Container-based app install (only relevant for a subset...) - Encapsulated dev environments (developer specific) So I would agree there's a bit of a disconnect in the document between what is said to be targeted and what is planned to be done. Bill -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop