On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 02:09:41PM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > Apple makes the following compromises: > > 1) It has it's own hardware division > 2) It ties it's OS to that hardware > 3) It then creates app stores and services around the OS > > Which leads to people buying the hardware because it's actually decent > hardware, a smaller set of machines to support which reduces > maintenance costs, a completely vertically integrated ecosystem that > locks people into their products, and developers focusing on OS X > because people buy into this because it works and is shiny. Most developers running OS X aren't developing for OS X. They're consumers of the ecosystem, not participants in it. It provides the developer tools they want while still giving them a perfectly functional general purpose operating system. I don't think they're buying the hardware and ending up with OS X as a side effect, they're buying the hardware because it's the only practical way to run OS X. They want a Unix-style environment. They want to be able to run git and python and ruby. But they also want to run an OS that feels well designed, that has a wide range of available desktop applications and which behaves in a predictable and reliable way. These are the people we want running Fedora. What arguments can we give them to migrate? -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop