On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 01:59:06PM +0100, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: >> Feel free to let me know if I forgot to include some important feedback >> or if further clarifications are needed. > > My thread about adding a sysadmin use case got somewhat derailed in the > details of multiple monitors and terminal handling, but I still would > *really* like to see > > Case: Systems Administrator > > Systems Administrator supporting Fedora or downstream distributions on > servers. Uses a web browser, and ssh with many terminal windows. May use > multiple monitors. > > This is a _very_ important constituency for Fedora in general and Fedora > desktop in specific, and the needs aren't subsumed by the other cases. > Please don't leave this group out. So here's the problem. We currently have: CS Student Developer DevOps Corporate Developer then people want to add: SysAdmin (which is explicitly mentioned in Other Users already) General Student General desktop user Designer/Content creator If you group all of those together, they could be summed up as: "Someone who (1) is voluntarily switching to Linux, (2) is familiar with computers, but is not necessarily a hacker or developer, (3) is likely to collaborate in some fashion when something's wrong with Fedora, and (4) wants to use Fedora for general productivity, either using desktop applications or a Web browser." which, not surprisingly, is exactly what today's Fedora target audience is. The same target audience definition that lead to creating the 3 product approach because it wasn't suitable to today's technology ecosystem. There needs to be focus. Where that focus is can surely be up for debate, but I'd rather not just drive Workstation into irrelevance by not learning from our past mistakes. We can't focus on everything or we'll wind up gaining nothing. I would suggest that instead of just saying "Role XXXX is important, add it!" people should look at the existing user definitions in the drafts and rework them as a set. Adding more and more is not going to help us create a product. josh -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop