On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 15:12 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > - some people feel that there is a concerted effort in upstream GNOME > to deemphasize and/or remove downstream branding. (The existence of a concept called > GNOME OS probably doesn't help work against that perception.) This seems a pretty inarguable trend to me: there is much more of a vertically integrated GNOME stack in Fedora than there ever used to be. We are replacing the generic Fedora firstboot with gnome-initial-setup, for GNOME installs. GNOME has been systematically attempting to replace system-config-* with environment specific changes. I don't necessarily think this is a *bad* Thing, but it is definitely a Thing. There is a definite trend towards our default live image and package set becoming a lot more GNOME-y and a lot less Fedora-y. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop