On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:35:59 +0100 drago01 <drago01@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:29 PM, seth vidal > <skvidal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:24:03 -0400 > > Cosimo Cecchi <ccecchi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> > >> I would normally be ashamed and frustrated to the idea alone of > >> replying to a message like this, but I will make myself an > >> exception, because I feel it's important for me to say it. > >> > >> I think this message of yours was rude, inflammatory and > >> condescending. It's technically misinformed. It misses the entire > >> point of this discussion. > >> It moves the argument to a space where it can only die, or burst > >> in an unproductive flame that will have no positive outcome other > >> than making people more frustrated and less willing to engage in a > >> serious conversation on this list in the future. > >> > >> Communication and collaboration can be hard, and I think we can > >> only succeed if we carefully weight what we're saying and > >> respectfully consider the nature of people involved in a given > >> discussion. I personally believe project leaders especially should > >> realize this, and I am often saddened to observe that this is not > >> the case in Fedora. > >> > > > > Cosimo, > > > > I completely disagree - This is a fedora desktop list - I > > recommended a simple and technical solution to our disagreement. > > There was nothing inflammatory about it whatsoever. I recommended > > using another, available, program that steps around the issue and > > is immediately available to fedora. > > > > If this were a gnome mailing list I would agree that it would be > > inappropriate but this is not a gnome mailing list - this is the > > fedora desktop list. > > > > If you could address the technical issues of my suggestion, I'd be > > happy to hear. > > OK I'll bite there are technical and usability advantages of using gdm > when gnome is used as the default desktop. > For one consistency you have the same look and feel on the login > screen as in your desktop, nice transition effect from going from > greeter -> desktop, faster login due to usage of the same libraries, > support for accessibility in the login screen keeping the > accessibility options on if the user needed them for login and many > others ... > > It is not as simple as replacing it with something else as you thing > ... sure it isn't impossible but it causes lots of regression. I'd > argue coming up to an agreement regarding the logo issue is way easier > so lets focus on that. So when Cosimo said it was 'technically misinformed' what, specifically, was he talking about? Transition effects doesn't sound like a road block. We don't seem to have this concern with gdm->xfce or people using lightdm and then install gnome afterwards, do we? -sv -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
