Re: [PATCH v6 01/14] drm/panthor: Add uAPI

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Hi Erik,

On 17/10/2024 09:51, Erik Faye-Lund wrote:
On Wed, 2024-10-16 at 16:18 +0200, Boris Brezillon wrote:
On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 16:05:55 +0200
Erik Faye-Lund <erik.faye-lund@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Wed, 2024-10-16 at 15:02 +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
On 2024-10-16 2:50 pm, Erik Faye-Lund wrote:
On Wed, 2024-10-16 at 15:16 +0200, Erik Faye-Lund wrote:
On Thu, 2024-02-29 at 17:22 +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
+/**
+ * enum drm_panthor_sync_op_flags - Synchronization
operation
flags.
+ */
+enum drm_panthor_sync_op_flags {
+       /** @DRM_PANTHOR_SYNC_OP_HANDLE_TYPE_MASK:
Synchronization
handle type mask. */
+       DRM_PANTHOR_SYNC_OP_HANDLE_TYPE_MASK = 0xff,
+
+       /** @DRM_PANTHOR_SYNC_OP_HANDLE_TYPE_SYNCOBJ:
Synchronization object type. */
+       DRM_PANTHOR_SYNC_OP_HANDLE_TYPE_SYNCOBJ = 0,
+
+       /**
+        *
@DRM_PANTHOR_SYNC_OP_HANDLE_TYPE_TIMELINE_SYNCOBJ:
Timeline synchronization
+        * object type.
+        */
+       DRM_PANTHOR_SYNC_OP_HANDLE_TYPE_TIMELINE_SYNCOBJ =
1,
+
+       /** @DRM_PANTHOR_SYNC_OP_WAIT: Wait operation. */
+       DRM_PANTHOR_SYNC_OP_WAIT = 0 << 31,
+
+       /** @DRM_PANTHOR_SYNC_OP_SIGNAL: Signal operation.
*/
+       DRM_PANTHOR_SYNC_OP_SIGNAL = (int)(1u << 31),

Why do we cast to int here? 1u << 31 doesn't fit in a 32-bit
signed
integer, so isn't this undefined behavior in C?


Seems this was proposed here:
https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/89be8f8f-7c4e-4efd-0b7b-c30bcfbf1d23@xxxxxxx/

...that kinda sounds like bad advice to me.

Also, it's been pointed out to me elsewhere that this isn't
*technically speaking* undefined, it's "implementation
defined".
But as
far as kernel interfaces goes, that's pretty much the same; we
can't
guarantee that the kernel and the user-space is using the same
implementation.

Here's the quote from the C99 spec, section 6.3.1.3 "Signed and
unsigned integers":

"""
Otherwise, the new type is signed and the value cannot be
represented
in it; either the result is implementation-defined or an
implementation-defined signal is raised
""""

I think a better approach be to use -1 << 31, which is well-
defined.
But the problem then becomes assigning it into
drm_panthor_sync_op::flags in a well-defined way... Could we
make
the
field signed? That seems a bit bad as well...

Is that a problem? Signed->unsigned conversion is always well-
defined
(6.3.1.3 again), since it doesn't depend on how the signed type
represents negatives.

Robin.

Ah, you're right. So that could fix the problem, indeed.

On the other hand, I hate the idea of having -1 << 31 to encode
bit31-set. That's even worse for DRM_PANTHOR_VM_BIND_OP_TYPE_xxx when
we'll reach a value above 0x7, because then the negative value is
hard
to map to its unsigned representation. If we really care about this
corner case, I'd rather go full-defines for flags and call it a day.


Yeah, I suppose it can get ugly for some other cases.

If we rule that out, I think there's only two options I can think of
left:

1. Using #defines instead, like Boris suggested
2. Using 64 bit signed enums (e.g "1ll << 31" instead)

Again, #2 here would be the smaller change. But I kinda think I lean
towards #1, because... These aren't really enumerators. They are flags.>
...Yeah, sure. In C the practical difference isn't huge. But if we ever
wanted to support using these enums from C++ code, we'd need to add
overloaded operators, because C++ doesn't allow ORing together enums
out of the box.

That's only true for enum classes. Plain'ol enums' values can be ORed at
will (but you will need to `static_cast` them back to the enum type,
admittedly, because they auto-"promote" to int for the arithmetic op).

I've had to use uAPI from C++ and the most painless approach, once you
finish writing it, is to wrap the whole uAPI in C++ constructs anyway.
So I wouldn't consider that angle, personally.


I'm not saying I have any plans on using the uAPI from C++, just saying
that if we're going to tackle this, we might as well tackle it
completely...

Also, expanding the enum-type to 64 bits might have some additional
consequences, like needlessly needing more stack-space to pass values
around etc.

Thoughts? Surely there must be some precedence on using the top bit for
flags in the kernel, no?

--
Mihail Atanassov <mihail.atanassov@xxxxxxx>

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