Re: ceph-volume simple disk scenario without LVM for OSD on PVC

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The key in /etc/ceph also gets lost if you repave the OS.  I discovered the hard way when I had to repave a node and the OSDs wouldn’t start.  They had to be redeployed, which was a whole lot of data movement that shouldn’t have needed to happen.  I subsequently found another 150 or so that I redeployed to avoid another rude awakening.

The current (well as of Luminous) scheme is to store them on the mons, is that somehow no longer feasible?

> On Fri, 6 Dec 2019, Alfredo Deza wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 8:31 AM Sage Weil <sage@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My thoughts here are still pretty inconclusive...
>>> 
>>> I agree that we should invest a non-LVM mode, but there isn't a way to do
>>> that currently that supports dm-crypt that isn't complicated and
>>> convoluted, so it cannot be a full replacement for the LVM mode.
>> 
>> The `ceph-volume simple` sub-command does allow dmcrypt. The key is
>> stored in the JSON file in /etc/ceph/osd.
>> 
>> Is there a scenario you've seen where this is not possible? The
>> `simple` sub-command would even allow partitions (regardless of
>> ceph-disk).
> 
> For the dm-crypt case, I'm assuming we need the key to be attached to the 
> device in some way.  LVM does this with another LV (IIRC); ceph-disk did 
> it with a tiny partition.  Putting it in /etc/ceph means you can't move a 
> disk to another server without manually copying files arounds.
> 
> sage
> 
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