Re: ceph-volume simple disk scenario without LVM for OSD on PVC

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Hi Sebastien and thanks for your feedback.

On 06.12.19 10:00, Sebastien Han wrote:
> ceph-volume is a sunk cost!
> And your argument basically falls into that paradigm, "oh we have
> invested so much already, that we cannot stop and we should continue
> even though this will only bring more trouble". Incapable of accepting
> this sunk cost.
> All the issues that have been fixed with a lot of pain.
> All that pain could have been avoided if LVM wasn't there and pursuing
> in that direction will only lead us to more pain again.

The reason I disagree here is the scenario were the WAL/DB is on a
separate device and a single OSD crashes. In that case you would like to
recreate just that single OSD instead of the whole group. Also if we
deprecate a tool such like we did with ceph-disk, users have to migrate
sooner or later if they don't want to do everything manually on the CLI
(by that I mean via fdisk/pure lvm commands and so on).

We could argue now that this can still be done on the command line
manually but all our efforts are towards simplicity/automation and
having everything in the Dashboard. If the underlying tool/functionality
isn't there anymore, that isn't possible.

> Also, I'm not saying we should replace the tool but allow not using
> LVM for a simple scenario to start with

Which then leads me to, why couldn't such functionality be implemented
into a single tool instead of having two at the end?

So don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that I'm against everything I'm
just saying that I think this is a topic that should be discussed in
more depth.

As said, just my two cents here.

Kai

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