> There is no "should be", there is no one answer to that, other than 42. Containers have been there before Docker, but Docker made them popular, exactly for the same reason as why Ceph wants to use them: ship a known good version (CI tests) of the software with all dependencies, that can be run "as is" on any supported platform. So ship it tested for container software XXX and run it on YYY. How will that benefit me as a user? There are differences when running a docker container, lxc, nspawn, podman, kubernetes and whatever. So you trade error A for error B. There are even problems with containers if you don't use version X from docker. That's what the past told us, why should it be better in the future with even more container environments. Have you tried running rancher on debian in the past? It breaks apart due to iptables or other stuff. -- Martin Verges Managing director Mobile: +49 174 9335695 E-Mail: martin.verges@xxxxxxxx Chat: https://t.me/MartinVerges croit GmbH, Freseniusstr. 31h, 81247 Munich CEO: Martin Verges - VAT-ID: DE310638492 Com. register: Amtsgericht Munich HRB 231263 Web: https://croit.io YouTube: https://goo.gl/PGE1Bx On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 at 17:53, Stefan Kooman <stefan@xxxxxx> wrote: > On 6/21/21 7:37 PM, Marc wrote: > > > > > > I have seen no arguments why to use containers other than to try and > make it "easier" for new ceph people. > > I advise to read the whole thread again, especially Sage his comments, > as there are other benefits. It would free up resources that can be > dedicated to (arguably) more pressing issues. > > Containers are not being used as they should be. > > There is no "should be", there is no one answer to that, other than 42. > Containers have been there before Docker, but Docker made them popular, > exactly for the same reason as why Ceph wants to use them: ship a known > good version (CI tests) of the software with all dependencies, that can > be run "as is" on any supported platform. > > Gr. Stefan > _______________________________________________ > ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx > _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx