"A containerized environment just makes troubleshooting more difficult, getting access and retrieving details on Ceph processes isn't as straightforward as with a non containerized infrastructure. I am still not convinced that containerizing everything brings any benefits except the collocation of services." It changes the way you troubleshoot, but I don't find it more difficult in the issues I have seen and had. Even today without containers, all services can be co-located within the same hosts (mons,mgrs,osds,mds).. Is there a situation you've seen where that has not been the case? ________________________________ From: Teoman Onay <tonay@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 1:38 PM To: Matthew H <matthew.heler@xxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Matthew Vernon <mv3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; ceph-users <ceph-users@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Re: ceph-ansible in Pacific and beyond? A containerized environment just makes troubleshooting more difficult, getting access and retrieving details on Ceph processes isn't as straightforward as with a non containerized infrastructure. I am still not convinced that containerizing everything brings any benefits except the collocation of services. On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 6:27 PM Matthew H <matthew.heler@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:matthew.heler@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: There should not be any performance difference between an un-containerized version and a containerized one. The shift to containers makes sense, as this is the general direction that the industry as a whole is taking. I would suggest giving cephadm a try, it's relatively straight forward and significantly faster for deployments then ceph-ansible is. ________________________________ From: Matthew Vernon <mv3@xxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:mv3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 12:50 PM To: ceph-users <ceph-users@xxxxxxx<mailto:ceph-users@xxxxxxx>> Subject: ceph-ansible in Pacific and beyond? Hi, I caught up with Sage's talk on what to expect in Pacific ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVtn53MbxTc ) and there was no mention of ceph-ansible at all. Is it going to continue to be supported? We use it (and uncontainerised packages) for all our clusters, so I'd be a bit alarmed if it was going to go away... Regards, Matthew -- The Wellcome Sanger Institute is operated by Genome Research Limited, a charity registered in England with number 1021457 and a company registered in England with number 2742969, whose registered office is 215 Euston Road, London, NW1 2BE. _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx<mailto:ceph-users@xxxxxxx> To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx<mailto:ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx> _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx<mailto:ceph-users@xxxxxxx> To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx<mailto:ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx> _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list -- ceph-users@xxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to ceph-users-leave@xxxxxxx