Ceph with VMWare / XenServer

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We are using a switchstack of Juniper EX4200 and EX3200. Cisco should work, too. Anotheroption is failover bonding (but multipathing with different ips is better)

Mit freundlichen Gr??en / Best Regards,
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Dipl.-Inf. Uwe Grohnwaldt
Gutleutstr. 351
60327 Frankfurt a. M.

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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leen Besselink" <leen at consolejunkie.net>
> To: ceph-users at lists.ceph.com
> Cc: "Uwe Grohnwaldt" <uwe at grohnwaldt.eu>
> Sent: Montag, 12. Mai 2014 19:01:46
> Subject: Re: Ceph with VMWare / XenServer
> 
> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 03:45:43PM +0200, Uwe Grohnwaldt wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > yes, we use it in production. I can stop/kill the tgt on one server
> > and XenServer goes to the second one. We enabled multipathing in
> > xenserver. In our setup we haven't multiple ip-ranges so we
> > scan/login the second target on xenserverstartup with iscsiadm in
> > rc.local.
> > 
> > Thats based on history - we used Dell Equallogic before ceph came
> > in and there was no need to use multipathing (only LACP-channels).
> > No we enabled multipathing and use tgt, but without diffent
> > ip-ranges.
> > 
> 
> I assume you connected the machines to the same switch ? As normal
> LACP don't work with multiple switches.
> 
> Is that correct ?
> 
> It wasn't that I needed different ip-ranges in my setup, it just
> makes it simpler/predictable.
> 
> > Mit freundlichen Gr??en / Best Regards,
> > --
> > Consultant
> > Dipl.-Inf. Uwe Grohnwaldt
> > Gutleutstr. 351
> > 60327 Frankfurt a. M.
> > 
> > eMail: uwe at grohnwaldt.eu
> > Telefon: +49-69-34878906
> > Mobil: +49-172-3209285
> > Fax: +49-69-348789069
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Andrei Mikhailovsky" <andrei at arhont.com>
> > > To: "Uwe Grohnwaldt" <uwe at grohnwaldt.eu>
> > > Cc: ceph-users at lists.ceph.com
> > > Sent: Montag, 12. Mai 2014 14:48:58
> > > Subject: Re: Ceph with VMWare / XenServer
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Uwe, thanks for your quick reply.
> > > 
> > > Do you run the Xenserver setup on production env and have you
> > > tried
> > > to test some failover scenarios to see if the xenserver guest vms
> > > are working during the failover of storage servers?
> > > 
> > > Also, how did you set up the xenserver iscsi? Have you used the
> > > multipath option to set up the LUNs?
> > > 
> > > Cheers
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > 
> > > From: "Uwe Grohnwaldt" <uwe at grohnwaldt.eu>
> > > To: ceph-users at lists.ceph.com
> > > Sent: Monday, 12 May, 2014 12:57:48 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Ceph with VMWare / XenServer
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > at the moment we are using tgt with RBD backend compiled from
> > > source
> > > on Ubuntu 12.04 and 14.04 LTS. We have two machines within two
> > > ip-ranges (e.g. 192.168.1.0/24 and 192.168.2.0/24). One machine
> > > in
> > > 192.168.1.0/24 and one machine in 192.168.2.0/24. The config for
> > > tgt
> > > is the same on both machines, they export the same rbd. This
> > > works
> > > well for XenServer.
> > > 
> > > For VMWare you have to disable VAAI to use it with tgt
> > > (http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1033665)
> > > If you don't disable it, ESXi becomes very slow and unresponsive.
> > > 
> > > I think the problem is the iSCSI Write Same Support but I haven't
> > > tried which of the settings of VAAI is responsible for this
> > > behavior.
> > > 
> > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en / Best Regards,
> > > --
> > > Consultant
> > > Dipl.-Inf. Uwe Grohnwaldt
> > > Gutleutstr. 351
> > > 60327 Frankfurt a. M.
> > > 
> > > eMail: uwe at grohnwaldt.eu
> > > Telefon: +49-69-34878906
> > > Mobil: +49-172-3209285
> > > Fax: +49-69-348789069
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Andrei Mikhailovsky" <andrei at arhont.com>
> > > > To: ceph-users at lists.ceph.com
> > > > Sent: Montag, 12. Mai 2014 12:00:48
> > > > Subject: Ceph with VMWare / XenServer
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hello guys,
> > > > 
> > > > I am currently running a ceph cluster for running vms with qemu
> > > > +
> > > > rbd. It works pretty well and provides a good degree of
> > > > failover. I
> > > > am able to run maintenance tasks on the ceph nodes without
> > > > interrupting vms IO.
> > > > 
> > > > I would like to do the same with VMWare / XenServer
> > > > hypervisors,
> > > > but
> > > > I am not really sure how to achieve this. Initially I thought
> > > > of
> > > > using iscsi multipathing, however, as it turns out,
> > > > multipathing is
> > > > more for load balancing and nic/switch failure. It does not
> > > > allow
> > > > me
> > > > to perform maintenance on the iscsi target without interrupting
> > > > service to vms.
> > > > 
> > > > Has anyone done either a PoC or better a production environment
> > > > where
> > > > they've used ceph as a backend storage with vmware / xenserver?
> > > > The
> > > > important element for me is to have the ability of performing
> > > > maintenance tasks and resilience to failovers without
> > > > interrupting
> > > > IO to vms. Are there any recommendations or howtos on how this
> > > > could
> > > > be achieved?
> > > > 
> > > > Many thanks
> > > > 
> > > > Andrei
> > > > 
> > > > 
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