I just don't see any good reason for running a client like mutt in a gui terminal with Orca. Yes, from the "let's get everything working like it should" perspective, we need good performance and good behavior in gui terminals, but mutt just runs so well in a console terminal (think screen) with Speakup, that I just don't worry my poor little head over the gui terminal. It's rather interesting, though, that similar issues can sometimes crop up in the console environment. I've recently been running Fedora 25 pre-release mutt v. 1.7.1 as my client, and I occasionally run into focus problems, meaning that what Speakup's Keypad 8 will say is one off from the actual selection. Usually the screen Ctrl+l "redraw the screen" command fixes that. Until the last mutt update there was a more annoying issue for me where Home and End didn't work to take you to the top or bottom of the index list. It was a bug, and I'm so glad it's now squashed. As for replying to the wrong person, that just happens if one isn't careful to observe the header data before sending. You don't need to be blind and using a screen reader to exhibit that behavior. I see the very same thing every so often from the very smart teckies on my various W3C lists, most of who are perfectly able bodied. Mutt does have one command I absolutely love, and I wonder whether the gui clients have something similar. There's the usual 'r' for reply to the sender, and 'g' for reply to all, but I particularly appreciate Shift+L for "reply only to the lists, and not the individuals." I must confess, though, that I'm impressed that people have found a browser interface to email fully usable. To me this suggests that familiarity with the particular environment is still the most important factor for success with whatever one chooses to use. Janina Tim Chase writes: > On November 9, 2016, Jeffery Mewtamer wrote: > > Personally, I've never seen the point of e-mail clients and have > > always used a web browser to check my e-mail. > > I think the big advantage is off-line usage. If you are connected > all the time and have dual-mode access for redundancy (say, a home > internet/wifi connection, and a 4G aircard), and don't roam much, > then a web-based mail client solves a lot of problems. But when > internet access is spotty or unreliable, it's nice to have full > access to your email offline. Fortunately, there are lots of > options, both within the GUI with varying degrees of accessibility > (Thunderbird, Kmail, Claws Mail, and Evolution come to mind) and > within the terminal (mutt and alpine being the dominant players, but > "alot" and mailx/heirloom mailx also come to mind as well as several > available within emacs). > > -tim > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.443.300.2200 sip:janina@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Email: janina@xxxxxxxxxxx Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list