Re: Update related to F123e

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A file emacspeak-easy-howto has some useful information in it. I'll search my bookmarks and see if I can locate a link, but a google search with file:emacspeak-easy-howto ought to locate it if I don't have it in my bookmarks.

On Mon, 7 Nov 2016, Fernando Botelho wrote:

Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 06:16:20
From: Fernando Botelho <Fernando.Botelho@xxxxxxxx>
To: Peter V?gner <pvdeejay@xxxxxxxxx>, blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx,
    speechd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, F123e@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Update related to F123e

Peter, we have now linked to your first post on this topic.

Do you have plans to research the possibility of importing Spacemacs keybindings to Emacs before you memorize too many of those Emacs keybindings?

Fernando


On 11/07/2016 07:53 AM, Peter V?gner wrote:
Hello,


It took me a long time to decide but I have attempted to start first blog post of what I hope will be a series on short tips on emacs accessibility.

For example I am looking into it for about a year sporadically.

I like F123E plan but instead of automation I would rather like to do something that would build on Arch linux philosophy. I am not going to rewrote the documentation but I would like to try showing some success stories while handling these things. Most of the articles end with a message saying something like it has a bit higher learning curve etc but unfortunatelly very little of them actually showcase how to go about changing that.

Let's see how this attempt will turn out.


So far I have got into basic buffer navigation and manipulation commands, navigating around emacs in general, emacs editing commands, understood so called easy customizations, got my-self to install and upgrade packages from elpa / melpa, briefly started playing with org mode, learned about basic dired file manipulation features, managed to connect to twitter with twittering-mode. And some invisible issues along my way such as debugging issues with request.el library and curl, getting epg working with gpg.

These are things I hope I have learned enough so I can comfortably use them.



Next on my todo list are knowing speechd-el better, emacs packages such as matrix-client for inovative instant messaging and more, jabber for classic messaging, gnus for email, sauron for integrated notifications.


This is my initial plan and these are things I wish to eventually cover later.


My first article just talks about installing and running emacs for the first time.


https://pvagner.tk/2016/emacs-a11y-tip-1-introduction-and-how-to-install


Of course if you have ideas, comments, anything feel free to post.


Thanks and greetings



Peter




On 06.11.2016 at 18:17 Fernando Botelho wrote:
Thanks to those who have sent feedback to my emails to various lists.

So far this is what I have found out:

A lot of people are in agreement regarding the need for:

* An easier way to install and setup Emacspeak;
* An easier way for Emacspeak to use eSpeak and/or other synthesizers; and * At least one expert also mentioned that Spacemacs does not solve all issues, as it has some inaccessible output.

However, it has been said that:

* SpeechD-el can make Emacs accessible;
* SpeechD-el already works well with Speech-Dispatcher and eSpeak;
* SpeechD-el is already easier to install and is multilingual by default; * SpeechD-el could even be used to bridge communication between Emacspeak and Speech-Dispatcher and eSpeak; and * it might be easier to just bring Spacemacs keybindings to classic Emacs rather than move all of the SpeechD-el or Emacspeak accessibility to Spacemacs.

I have updated our project document accordingly:
https://public.f123.org/experimental/About-F123e.html

Best,

Fernando


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