I myself, will migrate to Mutt or Emacs.
F
On 11/07/2016 03:31 PM, John G Heim wrote:
Stupid orca & thunderbird!!! I keep responding to the wrong messages.
On 11/07/2016 10:02 AM, John G Heim wrote:
I thought it was a one-time thing. It wasn't clear in your original
message that it happens every time. I'll fix it.
On 11/07/2016 05:35 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
A file emacspeak-easy-howto has some useful information in it. I'll
search my bookmarks and see if I can locate a link, but a google
search with file:emacspeak-easy-howto ought to locate it if I don't
have it in my bookmarks.
On Mon, 7 Nov 2016, Fernando Botelho wrote:
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 06:16:20
From: Fernando Botelho <Fernando.Botelho@xxxxxxxx>
To: Peter V?gner <pvdeejay@xxxxxxxxx>, blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx,
speechd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, F123e@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Update related to F123e
Peter, we have now linked to your first post on this topic.
Do you have plans to research the possibility of importing
Spacemacs keybindings to Emacs before you memorize too many of
those Emacs keybindings?
Fernando
On 11/07/2016 07:53 AM, Peter V?gner wrote:
Hello,
It took me a long time to decide but I have attempted to start
first blog post of what I hope will be a series on short tips on
emacs accessibility.
For example I am looking into it for about a year sporadically.
I like F123E plan but instead of automation I would rather like to
do something that would build on Arch linux philosophy. I am not
going to rewrote the documentation but I would like to try showing
some success stories while handling these things. Most of the
articles end with a message saying something like it has a bit
higher learning curve etc but unfortunatelly very little of them
actually showcase how to go about changing that.
Let's see how this attempt will turn out.
So far I have got into basic buffer navigation and manipulation
commands, navigating around emacs in general, emacs editing
commands, understood so called easy customizations, got my-self to
install and upgrade packages from elpa / melpa, briefly started
playing with org mode, learned about basic dired file manipulation
features, managed to connect to twitter with twittering-mode. And
some invisible issues along my way such as debugging issues with
request.el library and curl, getting epg working with gpg.
These are things I hope I have learned enough so I can comfortably
use them.
Next on my todo list are knowing speechd-el better, emacs packages
such as matrix-client for inovative instant messaging and more,
jabber for classic messaging, gnus for email, sauron for
integrated notifications.
This is my initial plan and these are things I wish to eventually
cover later.
My first article just talks about installing and running emacs for
the first time.
https://pvagner.tk/2016/emacs-a11y-tip-1-introduction-and-how-to-install
Of course if you have ideas, comments, anything feel free to post.
Thanks and greetings
Peter
On 06.11.2016 at 18:17 Fernando Botelho wrote:
Thanks to those who have sent feedback to my emails to various
lists.
So far this is what I have found out:
A lot of people are in agreement regarding the need for:
* An easier way to install and setup Emacspeak;
* An easier way for Emacspeak to use eSpeak and/or other
synthesizers; and
* At least one expert also mentioned that Spacemacs does not
solve all issues, as it has some inaccessible output.
However, it has been said that:
* SpeechD-el can make Emacs accessible;
* SpeechD-el already works well with Speech-Dispatcher and eSpeak;
* SpeechD-el is already easier to install and is multilingual by
default;
* SpeechD-el could even be used to bridge communication between
Emacspeak and Speech-Dispatcher and eSpeak; and
* it might be easier to just bring Spacemacs keybindings to
classic Emacs rather than move all of the SpeechD-el or Emacspeak
accessibility to Spacemacs.
I have updated our project document accordingly:
https://public.f123.org/experimental/About-F123e.html
Best,
Fernando
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