to be fair, I used the Exceed Hummingbird XServer everyday for a year or so. it didn't work wonderfully, but it did work. I actually spent a long time back in 1994 reading the code to X11R5 and nearly figured out how to write a custom XServer which would if nothing else, provide an api for getting text and screen info out of it. The short explanation for why I never got it there was this. There's a reason X has been around for 15 years or so and nobody has gotten it talking. it's just put together perfectly wrong. all these new interfaces, even microx and many of the new toolkits (like gnome) while hopelessly complex , promise to someday improve things. I went back to read some of my notes about the xserver and it's become mostly incomprehensible. that's the troubl with keeping everything in your head... I think I smoked those brain cells or something LOL I wish I cared enough about coding to put the gloves back on. *sigh* -----Original Message----- From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com [mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of David Poehlman Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 7:46 AM To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: synthavoice computers out of business and to get up close and personal about it, I can tell you that even a windows screen reader running on windows that encounters x inside the box does not see it even though it is the windows flavor of x. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin McCormick" <martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 7:27 AM Subject: Re: synthavoice computers out of business I am sure that the concepts could be ported, but the actual process of porting any of the GUI screen readers to X would be a ground-up project to say the least. A lot of C these days is pretty standard so that C or C++ programs written on one platform will compile on another if it also has a standard sort of C compiler like GCC, but Windows screen readers were developed specifically for Windows and probably use every Windows trick in the book in order to work as well as they do. I believe that there are several flavors of X floating around and all of them have structures and engines in them that do graphical things which might look kind of Windows-like, but they may be put together in a totally different way from an internal standpoint than the same Windows application was. How's that for vague generalities. Martin McCormick Ian Blackburn writes: >I wonder what could be done about porting Window Bridge to x Windows? > > >======================================================== > Standard disclaimer: > Any recipient of this communication acknowledges that: > * the Government Employees Superannuation Board accepts no responsibility > for the contents, nor the validity of this communication; and > * they do not rely on any view given unless it is properly authorised. >======================================================== > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Blinux-list@redhat.com >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > _______________________________________________ Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list _______________________________________________ Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list