Ray, Jaws will report a graphic even if it has no alt tag. It may give the file name of the graphic. I feel that a blind user should know when graphics are there, so he does not appear ignorant to a sighted user. Likewise, a blind user should know about the presence of other visual elements, and a deaf user should know about sound elements. I don't want to seem like a fool to my sighted colleagues. John Computers to Help People, Inc. http://www.chpi.org 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Saldana III" <raysaldana@theriver.com> To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 15:03 Subject: Re: Static IPs > Carl, one other question, will you share your address with me? I just want > to check it out for curiosity. > Another question for everyone, I don't use alt tags in my web pages. I > lay the graphics in so if you are using a screen reader you never know they > are there. Do you feel this is a mistake? I myself am always after the text, > and since I am unable to see the pictures, just prefer they lay in and I am > unaware of them. This was my reasoning as I can use the text that is what I > am after, and so prefer the pictures to be left to the sighted community. I > would appreciate others feelings on this. > I also use Java-applets, but lay them in so a non sighted person never > knows they are there. In other words no interferences with the sharing of > information. Do you guys feel this is a mistake? > Animations I use and again lay them in the coding so they don't > interfere, sometimes this is not an easy task, but can be accomplished with > some effort. Thanks again! > 73 RR > AB7JM > http://personal.riverusers.com/~ab7jm_gila > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andor Demarteau" <ademarte@students.cs.uu.nl> > To: <blinux-list@redhat.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 10:49 AM > Subject: Re: Static IPs > > > > On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Karl Dahlke wrote: > > > > > Someone described a pseudo-always-on dsl connection from Ameritech, > > > wherein the company drops you if you're not busy, > > > and you wake up with a new ip address. > > > What a frightening thought. > > have a look at http://www.dhs.org > > great and quick service to get a dynamic-ip with a fixed-hostname. > > Works fine. > > > > > > > I've just started hosting my own web site, on my own machine, > > > and I don't know why I didn't take the plunge long ago. > > > It's easy, and it's fun. > > > There are numerous advantages, and a couple disadvantages. > > > Well anyways, it would be unthinkable if I had such a terrible isp. > > > I certainly can't reprogram all the name servers on the internet > > > every time they decide to give me a new ip address. > > > The cable at-home service doesn't work like that, > > > and I have nothing but good things to say about them. > > > They even tried to help me set up, > > > knowing that I was on Linux. > > > That's pretty rare. > > > > > > Getting back to the IPs; > > > one day we lost the bill, or it got lost in the mail, or whatever, > > > and I was behind, so they turned off the service. > > > I called with my credit card to turn it back on and asked, > > > please please please, > > > can I have my old ip back again. > > > "Sure, we've been saving it for you." > > > Now that's class, > > > and its certainly important to those of us who are hosting our own > sites. > > > > > > Karl Dahlke > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > slainte mhaith (good health), slainte (cheers) > > Uisce Beatha (water of live/health) > > ----------- > > Andor Demarteau E-mail: ademarte@students.cs.uu.nl > > student computer science www: > http://www.students.cs.uu.nl/~ademarte/ > > Utrecht University irc: see webpage for details > > ----------- > > Believe in yourself, know what you want, and make it happen! > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >