Wow, I suppose, once I get lvm going, I can add space wherever I need it, where with the default setup you just add space for everything. I never knew it was default for linux to do the three partition only thing. With a 6 gig drive it doesn't matter, but on the other 30 gig drive I have, I'd have to split and install linux wherever windows ends, and if it's beyond 1024 cylinders, it won't boot, and if I recompile the kernel and boot files move out of range, I get to have fun specifying geometry parameters in lilo. This way, /boot is at the beginning of the disk and everything else goes out from there. At 12:05 AM 10/22/01 -0700, you wrote: >On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 12:05:16AM -0400, Frank Carmickle wrote: >> On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Janina Sajka wrote: >> > > /dev/hdb2, a swap partition I didn't want to install, but the system >> > > wouldn't let me go without it. >> > You want it. I promise. >> >> Why? If someone has a system that doesn't run a lot of tasks but they >> have 256 mb of memory or above I don't see a reason for it. With the >> price of 256mb ddr and sdram being around $30 to $45 US there's no real >> reason why a lot of people should have to be using swap. Especially with >> the state the vm system has been in in kernel releases 2.4.7 to 2.4.9. We >> are still feeling the effects in 2.4.10 and 2.4.12 a little. Things just >> swap out and they stay there. There's one really easy way to make sure >> they don't swap out. Don't use swap! > >That's something I would NOT recommend to any of my friends. System >without swap is going to fail at one point so that you won't be able to >recover. The kernel simply expects swap to be there. Also saying that >256MB of memory is enough for most people is also nonsense. In network >environment the situation is very dynamic and each system might be used by >more than one user, either logged in directly or using some shared >services. > >I see many people create /boot partition to keep the kernel only. That's >nonsense. It's unusable when any other partition gets corrupted and you >want to boot the system to a single user mode for maintenance. > >Most default partioning setups are not effective so I suggest the >following: > >/ 100 - 150 MB >/usr 900 - 3000 MB >/var 35 - 400 MB >/tmp 100 - 300 MB >/home the rest >swap 2 times RAM > >Anything else is going to be a problem sooner or later. That will keep you >out of trouble in most cases for a long time. It allows you to upgrade >without destroying your /home and you can preserve logs and other config >files if needed. The numbers depend on purpose of the system, server (WWW, >printer, NFS, Samba, etc.), office station, developer's work station, etc. > >The above mentioned partition structure allows you to boot into single >user mode and fix most of the problems without a need for recovery disk >(floppy or CD). > >I've done it that way many many times and it's a result of hundreds of >installations in mixed environment. Whenever other's install Linux with >default > >/boot >swap >/ > >they regret it. No way to upgrade without tearing down everything while >all I need is tar cvfp /home/sysconfig.tar /etc /root /whatever and >preserve old configuration files and other important stuff. You have to be >careful not to reformat /home partition during new installation. Of course >real backups are still needed but /home is normaly big enough to easily >keep my config in addition to regular user's stuff. > >> -- >> Frank Carmickle >> phone: 412 761-9568 >> email: frankiec@dryrose.com >-- >Rafael Skodlar > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Blinux-list@redhat.com >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >