On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 00:44 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2012-08-12 at 15:22 -0700, David Benfell wrote: > > On 08/12/2012 02:43 PM, Joakim Hernberg wrote: > > > > > I also don't quite understand the PA discussion. I am not thrilled > > > to have libpulse pulled in as a dependency, but on the other hand I > > > have never seen it cause a problem in arch. Of course I have no > > > intention of installing, nor of starting pulseaudio itself on my > > > system... > > > > > From what I've seen, libpulse doesn't cause problems (other than > > occupying space). I'm not thrilled about it either. But it seems > > possible to have it on the system without drawing in the rest of the > > pulseaudio toolchain that is clearly problematic. > > > > Great discussion, by the way. I don't fully understand it either, but > > given the problems I've had with pulseaudio, I appreciate what seems > > to be confirmation that I'm losing nothing by leaving it out. > > libpulse is ok :), I don't care about some bytes more or less. A desktop > picture nowadays needs more RAM/ROM than a complete workstation needs 2 > decades ago. > > The issue was/is/will be, that PA is a dependency, even if it's not > needed. Ooops, but it can brake some usages. Apologize.