On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Heiko Baums <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: [snip: lots of whining about pulse audio] This is not the right mailinglist for this issue. And this certainly is not the right thread for it. > And systemd seems to be similar. I also don't like that you want to > imprint this systemd stuff everybody even if one doesn't have systemd > installed. You are free to reimplement all those tools and ship a competing package. The configuration formats are well-documented, so it should not be hard. > See systemd-tools and systemd-cryptsetup. Well, I know that > you filed the issue about reading the key rawly from a block device to > upstream. But they did forgot it. What are you talking about? No one forgot anything. This is what happened: You pointed out a feature that initsrcipts used to have which systemd-cryptsetup lacked, (on the same day) I posted a patch to implement the feature you requested, and asked for feedback (which you didn't give), one week later I posted the patch upstream and (on the same day) Lennart replied: "Applied." The functionality should now be part of systemd 188, which is in testing. What more could you possibly ask for? > I have the > impression that Lennart only thinks halfway through and doesn't have > much knowledge about professional computer and UNIX usage. Maybe his > ideas have some good aspects, but he simply can't implement it > professionally and in a UNIX style. He seems to only think about > desktop users but definitely not about (semi-)professional users. I have the impression that you don't have a clue what you are talking about. > And run a `ls /usr/lib/systemd/system`. The harddisk is filled up with > a bunch of systemd stuff which I don't need and don't want to have. But > I am forced to have at least half of systemd on my harddisk, even if I > don't want to have systemd. Why don't you just delete the things you don't want? -t