> I am too old for flaming, and Seth is also allowed to have a bad day, > so let me be "icky" and get that over with. :( ok I want to make this very clear: icky is the mildest possible insult that one could possibly give. In english it is something a small child would say to describe something they thought tasted bad. so in terms of what I said it is the equivalent to saying "I don't like it, it seems less graceful" -sv