On 02/18/2013 01:49 PM, jonc wrote:
On 02/18/2013 06:31 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 21:50:22 +1030
Tim wrote:
On Sun, 2013-02-17 at 15:22 -0500, jonc wrote:
Still, FOSS has no reliable way to measure who likes what, or who uses
what...
Or who despises something, but still carries on using it, anyway. Nor
can you tell why, such as whether they have no choice (e.g. not their
computer), or any other reason.
In fact FOSS has no way to tell if the passionate advocates of
nonsense like Gnome 3 are actually in the pay of evil corporate
giants who want to see Linux destroyed and are deliberately
inventing the worst possible systems (as long as we are mentioning
things we can't know :-).
Well, I do know that most of the attacks on Gnome 3 I see seem to boil
down to it being different from Gnome 2. All of a sudden, people began
calling that the "traditional desktop". Who knew Linux users were such
conservative stick-in-the-muds? I guess the developers should have
packed it in and just fixed bugs, because perfection was reached with
Gnome 2.32. ;-)
And what is the problem with not improving things that don't need
improving? There needs to be a distinct line between maintaining a good,
stable familiar product and going off on a tangent with experimental
interfaces. The way most people see it, Gnome 3 is exactly that - a UI
experiment, not something you should be bundling into a stable product.
If FOSS developers and designers depended for their incomes on selling
their products, then Gnome 2 would probably still be around, because
there would be money to be made selling Gnome 2 apps. Much like
Microsoft has kept XP around for years. But, we FOSS users are
essentially recipients of charity (and unpaid testers of undone software
released too early), given to complain when our free plate of food
contains something we don't like.
Perhaps, but a lot of us are also contributors to other projects, so the
karma does balance out for some.
What happened to Gnome 2 -- forked by MATE -- is, btw, exactly what is
supposed to happen in FOSS.
I couldn't agree more. It is a great shame that this doesn't happen more
often, but when the dissatisfaction of users really gets to a point
where enough momentum for a fork is achieved, it is a pretty damning
statement.
Gordan
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