On 06/12/2011 10:26 PM, James McKenzie wrote: >> > Marketing is what is it is all about. You could make the best gizmo in > the business, but if you cannot get folks to use it, you just wasted > your time and alot of someone else's money. This happened with OS/2 > when Microsoft introduced WindowsNT 3.1. Marketing is great - we all agree - problem is there is a different between marketing a useful, clean wonderful tool and a smelly pile of annoying poo ... From user feedback so far - F15 with Gnome shell and quite a bit of brokenness associated with the introduction of systemd may not be (is not?) ready to market. Change for change sake, of course, is a slow path to where you were last time you turned around ... :-) I do have high hopes for F16 - tho many seem to fear that systemd may not get the love it needs for such a core component - I am hopeful it will ... F15 is pretty much a beta at the moment - lets hope F16 will be marketable ..so you marketing types can really go to town! -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines