It's been a nice ride these past 7 years with Fedora as my primary OS, but it's time to move on. My current and future needs are for a support life measured in years, not months. And CentOS and Scientific Linux didn't fulfill my other requirements. Neither did the Rolling Release distros: At some point, support for older hardware must be dropped to make way for new, and the old system "breaks." I can't have that. So, with the release of 15 (I'm still using 12), which would have traditionally been my next upgrade, my decision was finalized. GNOME 3 was really what did it. After using it for a while to get familiar with it, I decided I just didn't like it. And KDE is still a resource gluten--the primary reason I left it years ago. Considered XFCE and LXDE instead, but decided the best option was to abandon the Desktop GUI environment all-together in favor of a well-featured window manager, simple launch bar for most used apps, floating menus for the others, and a terminal or two. I don't really need all the other crap. Not even 3D. My primary choice is Debian 6, 64-bit, and Openbox. I've been testing both in VirtualBox for a few months. So far, so good. I'll still keep an eye on Fedora for old time's sake. And 12 will stay on the system as a back up. So, it's not exactly farewell, just . . . Auf Wiedersehen, B -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines