On 6/12/11 8:15 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 06/12/2011 10:26 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > >> Marketing is what is it is all about. You could make the best gizmo in >> the business, but if you cannot get folks to use it, you just wasted >> your time and alot of someone else's money. This happened with OS/2 >> when Microsoft introduced WindowsNT 3.1. > Marketing is great - we all agree - problem is there is a different > between marketing a useful, clean wonderful tool and a smelly pile of > annoying poo ... > > From user feedback so far - F15 with Gnome shell and quite a bit of > brokenness associated with the introduction of systemd may not be (is > not?) ready to market. I will agree that systemd is seriously broken. I don't get the connection between it and the UI, Gnome3. Does Gnome3 need/desire systemd? If so, then it is not ready for market. It is not nice to force users to go from one broken OS to another...(Vista non-withstanding, it is a pile of concentrated dog-poo of the ME variety only higher.) > Change for change sake, of course, is a slow path to where you were > last time you turned around ... :-) Change should be a good thing, and well thought out and superbly executed. And Fedora is and will remain a testing ground for 'things RedHat, in the future'. I'm glad that this was caught at this level and not by production users. > I do have high hopes for F16 - tho many seem to fear that systemd may > not get the love it needs for such a core component - I am hopeful it > will ... And if it is needed, it must receive much 'love' from what I read here in the User's list. I don't expect to see much from Fedora 15 for at least another year or so. Maybe Gnome3 will be added to RHEL 6.2, but that is a ways off. James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
