On 6/12/2011 11:04 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > On 6/12/11 7:42 PM, David wrote: >> On 6/12/2011 10:31 PM, James McKenzie wrote: >>> On 6/12/11 7:17 PM, David wrote: >>>> On 6/12/2011 10:06 PM, James McKenzie wrote: >>>>> On 6/12/11 6:36 PM, David wrote: >>>>>> On 6/12/2011 8:48 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: >>>>>>> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:20:39 -0700 >>>>>>> James McKenzie wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We need >>>>>>>> to make Linux as easy, if not easier to use than the other 'junk' out >>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>> When you run Windows for the first time, annoying tutorials badger >>>>>>> you incessantly about learning how to use the Windows interface >>>>>>> and/or adapting to changes made in the new version of Windows. >>>>>> FUD >>>>> No, truth. When you run Linux for the first time, does it have a >>>>> built-in take you step by step tutorial? I've never been 'badgered' by >>>>> one. Remember, the key is Lowest Common Denominator (LCD). If you hit >>>>> that, then you've pissed off the upper levels, but as one I just dismiss >>>>> it and go about my business. This is one of those areas that Linux >>>>> desktop designers could learn from their Windows and MacOSX >>>>> counterparts. I've been down this road before and I don't want the >>>>> flames that are coming back. Not everyone is a 'genius' and not >>>>> everyone can understand what each icon does. Remember, Einstein could >>>>> not make change nor did he understand the monetary system, but he still >>>>> managed to buy his groceries, when they were not bought for him. >>>> I said FUD instead of bull$hit because Windows does not do what he said. >>>> So what are you trying to say? >>> I've installed XP, Vista and Seven. All of them start with a tour of >>> the operating system. Even Windows Server 2003/2008 has the "Manage >>> Your Server" window that comes up. When I start XP/Vista/Seven for the >>> first time, there is a 'Would You Like to Take a Tour" item that shows >>> up. Does Linux do the same thing? Last time I started up Gnome, it did >>> not. That is what I'm trying to say. My Mac had a very nice >>> introduction and really fancy setup system. I did not find such a thing >>> when I installed Fedora 13 on my Thinkpad. Remember, the system has to >>> be really easy. Linux has not. The phrase "Linux has friends, it is >>> just picky as to who they are" is not where we need to be if Linux is to >>> grow on the Workstation desktop. I know there are folks who don't care, >>> but there are only so many servers in the world and Linux is presently >>> the winner in that category but is slipping. >>> >>> James McKenzie >>> >> >> James. Now I am confused. Are you saying that Linux *should* have a >> tutorial? >> >> Linux has always been the geek OS. And the directions have always been >> written in Geek for Geeks. >> > Yes. To grow the desktop, we need to start embracing the common user. > There are a limited number of geeks and they cannot sustain Linux. Not > at a financially viable level... > > I would love to see the folks in Redmond squirm. Windows has so many > problems that it should be banned from anywhere where reliability is > key. Go to your local hospital and see what they are running. It > scares me that they are running WindowsXP/Vista/Seven on the front end > and WindowsServer on the back. I would, from a security viewpoint, love > to see this replaced with Linux and running a secure UI program. This > is easier on Linux than Windows... I see. Now I understand you completely. Since Linux is user supported. I am sure that the developers would welcome any tutorials that you would write and provide. That is the way the Linux works. As for "the folks in Redmond"? I doubt that they will loose a minute of sleep over your efforts unless you really, really put forth major efforts in this respect. Have a good day. -- David -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
