On 6/12/2011 10:31 PM, James McKenzie wrote: > On 6/12/11 7:17 PM, David wrote: >> On 6/12/2011 10:06 PM, James McKenzie wrote: >>> On 6/12/11 6:36 PM, David wrote: >>>> On 6/12/2011 8:48 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:20:39 -0700 >>>>> James McKenzie wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We need >>>>>> to make Linux as easy, if not easier to use than the other 'junk' out >>>>>> there. >>>>> When you run Windows for the first time, annoying tutorials badger >>>>> you incessantly about learning how to use the Windows interface >>>>> and/or adapting to changes made in the new version of Windows. >>>> FUD >>> No, truth. When you run Linux for the first time, does it have a >>> built-in take you step by step tutorial? I've never been 'badgered' by >>> one. Remember, the key is Lowest Common Denominator (LCD). If you hit >>> that, then you've pissed off the upper levels, but as one I just dismiss >>> it and go about my business. This is one of those areas that Linux >>> desktop designers could learn from their Windows and MacOSX >>> counterparts. I've been down this road before and I don't want the >>> flames that are coming back. Not everyone is a 'genius' and not >>> everyone can understand what each icon does. Remember, Einstein could >>> not make change nor did he understand the monetary system, but he still >>> managed to buy his groceries, when they were not bought for him. >> >> I said FUD instead of bull$hit because Windows does not do what he said. >> So what are you trying to say? > I've installed XP, Vista and Seven. All of them start with a tour of > the operating system. Even Windows Server 2003/2008 has the "Manage > Your Server" window that comes up. When I start XP/Vista/Seven for the > first time, there is a 'Would You Like to Take a Tour" item that shows > up. Does Linux do the same thing? Last time I started up Gnome, it did > not. That is what I'm trying to say. My Mac had a very nice > introduction and really fancy setup system. I did not find such a thing > when I installed Fedora 13 on my Thinkpad. Remember, the system has to > be really easy. Linux has not. The phrase "Linux has friends, it is > just picky as to who they are" is not where we need to be if Linux is to > grow on the Workstation desktop. I know there are folks who don't care, > but there are only so many servers in the world and Linux is presently > the winner in that category but is slipping. > > James McKenzie > James. Now I am confused. Are you saying that Linux *should* have a tutorial? Linux has always been the geek OS. And the directions have always been written in Geek for Geeks. -- David -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines