Quoting Mike McCarty <mike.mccarty@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
I sent out an e-mail some weeks ago suggesting that if there were an easy way for me to test without endangering the stability of my system, then I'd be willing to do some QA testing. The silence in response to that message was completely deafening.
That simply isn't true. If you were concerned about progress, you should have asked for an update. Jesse said he was taking the idea of a vmplayer image up the chain for approval. It was discussed a fair amount here. Several people asked about just creating good docs for using VM systems for QA. I started trying to code some stuff up to better automate the QA process to make it easier for people to get involved, and I still plan to work on them once this thread dies down.
It got not even one reply. I saw recently some things about using VmWare perhaps allowing one to do testing in a protected environment, but no one really seems interested in following up on that.
That simply isn't true. This is being followed up, and it was due in part to your postings.
So, while there is no backout procedure for the testing packages, I am unwilling to do any testing.
That is BS. You haven't even tried.
And, before I get more unwelcome messages about "You get out what you put in."
You get what the community puts in, where "community" means all those involved in any way in FL. You are part of the community, but you are free to leave the community if you want.
If someone offers something up free, without expectation of recompense, and I accept it, giving back no recompense, then I do not feel that I have done anything criminal, unethical, immoral, lazy, ungrateful, or even unfriendly. So those of you who are tempted to respond along these lines, save your collective breath.
You have not done anything criminal, unethical, immoral, ungrateful, or unfriendly in using the packages FL produces. Lazy, well, matter of opinion. Ungrateful, only if you complain about the project while unwilling to help to improve it. The idea behind a community project is you can't complain loudly (but you can ask questions, and make suggestions) unless you are willing to help out. We're giving the stuff away for free, and in return we ask that those not helping don't complain. However, we should always accept helpful suggestions, comments, tips, hints, support, even constructive critisism. Just not complaints by people unwilling to help out. The other idea is you have to wait until we get around to what you want. You can't post a suggestion and expect we will all spend 12 hours a day working on it. It might take months to get it done. You have to be patient, or willing to help. You can't refuse to participate and refuse to wait for the results.
But I'm not complaining about Fcx, or Legacy for FC2 in particular.
Okay.
Mike
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