Re: .0 KDE releases have terrible track record, so...

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On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 2:31 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 7:04 PM Go Canes <letsgonhlcanes0@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > - remote *application*, not desktop.  I.e X over a ssh tunnel.  [As I
> > understand it, there is a tool to handle remote applications available
> > (or in development)]
> This has worked for years, just nobody knew it existed.
> $ waypipe ssh <user>@<host>

Yes - that is what I have seen but couldn't remember.

> > - ability to control windows using tools such as xdotool, wmctrl, etc.
> > - change focus, send mouse clicks and keypresses [I saw something
> > recently that seemed to suggest that this can be done using dbus?]
> >
> KWin has its own APIs and tools for this, I am unfamiliar with them,
> but I do know they exist as part of KWin itself.

The articles I see on KWin don't seem to show it as a command-line
tool.  "dnf info" only says it is a window manager (and maybe my
terminology is out-of-date, but I always thought KDE was the window

> There is also the package "ydotool" which can help replace xdotool.

ydotool only appears to do part of what xdotool does.

As a generic example, I do the following today:
- identify a running application to gets its PID
- use the PID with xdotool to get the list of window IDs
- determine which window ID is the "main" window using xprop (this is
not always straightforward)
- with the proper window ID, use xdotool move the mouse to a
window-relative position
- use xdotool to send a mouse click, etc. to further interact with the
application - i.e. select from menus

Of the above, at a glance ydotool only appears to handle the mouse
movement, clicks, etc., and using absolute coordinates (which doesn't
help if I don't know where the window is located).

So similar to automated testing type of things, only in this case it
is day-to-day use (basically adding capability to programs).

I thank you for the suggestions anyway!
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