On 15/04/2020 14:43, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: > Good God find a new hobby. Why would you want to be part of a group that > doesn't want you? This is why I left years ago. > Debian users are universally happy with the work done by volunteers who were subjected to these experiments. Looking after the users and wider free software objective is also point #4 in the Debian Social Contract[1]. That is why we do free software after all, it is for the users, not because we love the current leader of any particular project. The idea that people are unwanted is also false. These experiments were done secretly, the vast majority of Debian Developers did not know that Joerg Jaspert, Enrico Zini and Jonathan Wiltshire had pushed at least three people out of the keyring in 2018. About a month after the experiment started, I had lunch with Didier Raboud (odyx), he was head of the technical committee, the second most senior[2] position after the DPL at that time and he didn't even know these people had been secretly removing volunteers from the keyring. The purpose of these keyring changes was not to push people away: in every case, they wrote that they wanted us to continue doing work on packages. They were using this secret shaming experiment to try and control us, keep us out of elections, etc. I think that really debunks the idea that any of the volunteers caught up in this were not wanted. Regards, Daniel 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Social_Contract 2. https://www.debian.org/devel/constitution#item-6 _______________________________________________ council-discuss mailing list -- council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to council-discuss-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx