I'd like to understand how Fedora feels about giving people credit for their work. Is it about doing the bare minimum, checking that copyright statements list all authors in the code, for example? Or is it universal, for all aspects of the community, mentoring, etc? In 2013, Debian demoted/blackmailed/expelled[1] Daniel Baumann because other people wanted to take over his work due to interactions between debian-cd, live-build and the release process. Joerg Jaspert sent a heavy-handed and defamatory email about Baumann on debian-private on 8 March 2013 to turn other developers against him. These attacks on volunteers were previously hidden but Sam Hartman has recently indicated they can be disclosed. I raise it here because it is analogous to the attacks on my own work and my blogs. To put this in context, look at the enormous amount of work[2] Baumann had recorded in the live-build changelog before they came for him. This was one of only many[3] packages he had contributed to. To humiliate him, they made him continue uploading using a guest account[4]. Is that the right way to thank somebody? They tried to press me to use a guest account too. I chose to blog about this abuse instead. The pattern is the same: notice that I had been involved in mentoring programs between 2013-2018, I simply resigned[5] without commenting on the troublesome relationships in Debian or my private reasons for resigning. In early 2019, the new announcement[6] of the GSoC/Outreach team fails to give me any credit. The other two new admins, Pranav Jain and Jaminy Prabaharan, are students I had only recently found and mentored myself. Given their level of experience in the Debian community, I feel they were put there as helpers for de Blanc, as she was the leader's girlfriend and wanted to run things her way. I felt their appointment was also another snipe at me, like the suggestion to use a guest account. Students like this rely entirely on travel grants to get visas and attend events. The message that is being sent out is that volunteers who are dependent on funding are more compliant. I recently wrote a blog with some comments on the numerous visits[7] I made to the Balkans before Kosovo was selected for DebConf21. The reaction? Instead of thanking me, Hartman immediately made a series of personal attacks to undermine that work. I've heard that young people who I've collaborated with there have been asked to take sides or miss out on opportunities like diversity funding. When a young woman calls or emails me about a threat like that from another developer, the feeling I get is the same feeling I would have if any one of you removed my name from a copyright notice or stole my wallet. Why do some people in Fedora not understand how incredibly serious that is? When people contribute as volunteers, the only thing we get in return is recognition for our efforts. Taking that away is equivalent to plagiarism or stealing. Why should the Code of Conduct hide reports about people misappropriating other volunteers' work? Regards, Daniel 1. https://nm.debian.org/person/daniel 2. https://salsa.debian.org/live-team/live-build/-/blob/master/debian/changelog#L1667 3. https://contributors.debian.org/contributor/daniel@debian/ 4. https://contributors.debian.org/contributor/dba-guest@alioth/ 5. https://lists.debian.org/debian-outreach/2018/08/msg00108.html 6. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2019/03/msg00011.html 7. https://danielpocock.com/how-kosovo-won-debconf21/ _______________________________________________ council-discuss mailing list -- council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to council-discuss-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx