On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 02:19:21PM -0500, inode0 wrote: >> > are unclear where to go for what. If you've got some suggestions for making >> > the delineation sharp, I think that would really help. >> I would call what we have now and what I would like to retain a >> governance board and I would call the new body a leadership council. > > Okay, but see below... > >> > This comes back to sounding like "court" to me, although maybe there's >> > something loaded in that term that doesn't sit right. >> It bothers me because courts conjure up criminal behavior and >> punishments and such. We often don't even have strong advocacy >> involved. We are asked questions where sometimes the people asking > > Okay, that's fair enough. I certainly didn't mean to imply that. > > >> might not have thought it through entirely themselves but just want >> something clarified before investing a lot of their energy going down >> an alley. In this role I see the board up to now as one giving >> guidance when asked (and anyone could ask including board members). >> Since the board has never had any ability to enforce its guidance it >> really is just guidance that hopefully more often than not folks pay >> attention to. > > This last thing seems at odds with the concept of "governance", at least as > Greg defined it earlier in the thread (and which seems a reasonable enough > definition to work with; others might include an even stronger degree of > control). If the board just provides guidance, it doesn't really sound like > a _governing_ board -- more like an advisory board. (Hmmm; maybe I shouldn't > have renamed this mailing list....) Well, if it had real power following its guidance/decisions wouldn't be optional. But it never has had any sort of enforcement power. Still, I think the community largely pays attention and respects the guidance given which in a community like ours is really better than the board having real enforcement power anyway. John _______________________________________________ board-discuss mailing list board-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/board-discuss
